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11 May 2013 23:44 #25701 by LJRG
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Hi, I've searched around the internet and nobody seems to have this problem!
I don't know if I'm doing something wrong or if it's a bug but I can't select optical for some reason...
I've slowed a clip down and I can apply frame blending, but I want optical flow!

Does anybody know what might be up?

Thanks for any help

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12 May 2013 01:45 - 12 May 2013 01:48 #25702 by TrixTrax9000
Apparently Optical Flow can't be applied to every type of media... Does this apply to your situation?

discussions.apple.com/thread/4503227?start=0&tstart=0

This one also might assist

www.larryjordan.biz/fcpx-optical-flow/
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12 May 2013 02:39 #25704 by LJRG
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hmm thanks but I don't think so. It must be a file type issue but first of all there doesn't seem to be any handy information anywhere stating something like 'so and so file type can't be used with optical flow' and secondly my media is ProRes. I'm new to fcp and video in general so I'm probably doing something stupid of course!

I'm making a stop motion film and using quicktime to make image sequences out of my shots. When I export from quicktime I choose ProRes 422, 1920x1080. When I import to fcpx I choose create optimised media and proxy media. Optical flow doesn't work on these clips if I choose optimised or proxy media playback. If nobody else has this problem then it could be something to do with my quicktime export options... but then doesn't fcp transcode into a format it shouldn't proceed to have any trouble with anyway??

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12 May 2013 02:55 #25705 by LJRG
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Oh I found out why, I really don't know what I'm doing with this program!
I used the blade tool to take away a frame I didn't want from the middle of the clip, to make the clip into one clip again I chose to create a compound clip. It's with compound clips that you can't use optical flow. I'll have to find out how to rejoin cut up clips without making them into compound ones.

Thanks for your help!

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12 May 2013 03:02 #25706 by LJRG
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aaaand a quick google later it turns out you can't do this..... well that's stupid.. should be a glue tool or something

(sorry for triple post!)

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12 May 2013 04:20 - 12 May 2013 04:20 #25708 by Seanus
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Glue tool! Love it! Yes deleting "through" edits is something that is sadly lacking from FCP X. Just delete everything to the right and drag it out using the trim tool to return to normal programming.

Sean Lander - Editing since 1982 - AVID 1991 - FCP 1999 - FCPX 2011
Last edit: 12 May 2013 04:20 by Seanus.

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12 May 2013 04:57 #25709 by LJRG
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That method would normally be fine but it wont work if the cut was to remove a frame. In this case I accidentally had my hand in shot during a photo for a stop motion sequence, it would be cool if I could cut out that one frame and have fcp deal with the clip as if it had never been there!
Of course I could have just removed it before compiling the photo sequence...

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12 May 2013 19:03 #25721 by simonpwood
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Here is the "Glue workflow":

You have your video clip in the timeline.
Remove the frame(s) that need to go.
Copy the 2 clips either side of the removed frame.
Paste them into a new Project timeline.
Render the project as a ProRes clip - call it Glue 1.
Import the new clip.
Add the Optical flow filter.

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12 May 2013 19:41 #25723 by LJRG
Replied by LJRG on topic Optical Flow Greyed Out
Awesome, great idea, thank you!

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13 May 2013 12:53 #25743 by simonpwood
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Glad to help. :)

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13 May 2013 14:26 #25745 by BenB
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Compound Clip?

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13 May 2013 17:54 - 13 May 2013 17:54 #25756 by LJRG
Replied by LJRG on topic Optical Flow Greyed Out

BenB wrote: Compound Clip?


Optical flow won't work with compound clip you see :(
Last edit: 13 May 2013 17:54 by LJRG.

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13 May 2013 17:56 #25757 by LJRG
Replied by LJRG on topic Optical Flow Greyed Out

simonpwood wrote: Here is the "Glue workflow":

You have your video clip in the timeline.
Remove the frame(s) that need to go.
Copy the 2 clips either side of the removed frame.
Paste them into a new Project timeline.
Render the project as a ProRes clip - call it Glue 1.
Import the new clip.
Add the Optical flow filter.


ooh I just realised something though, you must ensure to stop using proxy media before you export with this glue workflow!

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13 May 2013 17:59 #25758 by simonpwood
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Well yeah; export at the highest quality you can.

I never use proxy for anything myself....

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13 May 2013 18:03 #25759 by LJRG
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I just realised when exporting from the new 'glue' project to prores final cut was still in proxy mode. When I brought it back to my main project, from which I'm editing using proxy, it was being proxied again!

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