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Feature documentary reels - compound clips or projects?

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21 Feb 2013 21:29 #21579 by fcpguru
Just wrapping up a feature doc cut entirely in FCPX. Been a great experience, and now I'm breaking up the film into reels for sound, color, etc. I think I have a hint at what I might do, but wanted to ask if anyone else has cut long form content and has any words of wisdom.

I'm thinking of making compound clips out of each reel and then assembling the film in a new project. But I could just keep making projects... any advice here?

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21 Feb 2013 22:43 #21580 by Seanus
For me I just keep making projects. Use lots of folders for all the elements. Remember that Apple's new way of handling compound clips means you have to be extremely careful you don't accidentally destroy previous versions. Making new projects avoids this problem.

Sean Lander - Editing since 1982 - AVID 1991 - FCP 1999 - FCPX 2011

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22 Feb 2013 15:42 #21610 by fcpguru
Great note - Apple changed the way compound clips operate since the first days of FCPX so it's required a bit of relearning on my part!

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23 Feb 2013 05:48 #21625 by Seanus
Sorry have to update this because I was not quite right. Duping Compound Clips DOES create an independent version while duping projects that contains compound clips does not.

So now I'm really confused. Why have projects at all?

Sean Lander - Editing since 1982 - AVID 1991 - FCP 1999 - FCPX 2011

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23 Feb 2013 08:26 - 23 Feb 2013 13:12 #21627 by Pazu
* FcpX never reopen on a compound clip but project yes.
* sharing a project easiest than the event (maybe...)
* exporting an xml ? You can't export an xml from a CC.
* more settings in projects, like sharing info, etc... You can't change settings of CC.
* duplicate project with a new event with only media used in it.
* etc...

I edit the parts/reels/etc.. in CC and finish in a project.
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23 Feb 2013 10:22 #21628 by Dave_EP

Seanus wrote: So now I'm really confused. Why have projects at all?


I've been sorta kinda wondering this myself! Recall you pointed me to a video on another forum where the guy was using compound clips instead of projects, and only dropped them to a project for final output.

Other than export / share, what can you do in a project that could can't do in a compound clip?

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23 Feb 2013 13:21 #21629 by Seanus
Indeed. I will need to test this out as a work flow. Do everything as compound clips until the end, then make your final project. Hmmmm

Sean Lander - Editing since 1982 - AVID 1991 - FCP 1999 - FCPX 2011

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23 Feb 2013 16:06 #21632 by parkerhqj
I kept wanting to do this, but I was told that too many compound clips, particularly big ones, will slow things down and make fcpx unstable. I was told also that the last update pretty much took care of this problem. To be on the safe side, I use projects for my timelines and compound clips for various combinations within those projects. Most of my edits are 35-40 minutes long so I divide them into four separate projects. It would be easier to have my four projects as four compound clips in the browser and then combine them onto one project for export, but I'm nervous that something go wrong with that workflow.

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23 Feb 2013 22:01 #21638 by Seanus
Agreed. I'm about to start a 1 hour doc and I think I'll just avoid comps all together. Because while duping comps makes them independent, duping projects that contain comps does not.

Sean Lander - Editing since 1982 - AVID 1991 - FCP 1999 - FCPX 2011

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24 Feb 2013 23:46 #21683 by marchyman

Seanus wrote:
So now I'm really confused. Why have projects at all?


For exporting fcpxml to Resolve. Resolve isn't happy with a compound clip, but drop that clip into a project and all is well.

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