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NeatVideo vs Finisher?

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09 Feb 2013 14:52 #21125 by Neguah
Has anyone tried finisher as a sharpener?
www.crumplepop.com/finisher-plugin/

How is it compared to NeatVideo?

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09 Feb 2013 16:44 #21128 by cseeman
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Comparison?
NeatVideo is a noise reduction filter. Finisher doesn't claim that.

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09 Feb 2013 17:38 #21129 by Makki
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I have been using Finisher for a long time, it brings more details but it is not de nosier. Neat does not work properly with FCPX 10.0.7

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09 Feb 2013 23:27 #21134 by BenB
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Anyone try out Phyx Cleaner? I have a copy, but never had any noisy footage to test it with.

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09 Feb 2013 23:57 - 10 Feb 2013 00:02 #21135 by Dave_EP
Replied by Dave_EP on topic NeatVideo vs Finisher?

BenB wrote: Anyone try out Phyx Cleaner? I have a copy, but never had any noisy footage to test it with.


LOL

Damn. I wish I could say the same thing. Filming in dark places without being able to use lights gives us lots of samples to work with ;)

I haven't used finisher but I've used Neat Video a LOT with FCP7 and Premiere Pro. As soon as Apple fix the bug I will be installing Neat video for FCPX without hesitation.

Like anything, it's not perfect, but used wisely (which means don't over do it!) it can save your a$$.

But, NeatVideo is NOT a sharpener and it doesn't look like Finisher is a Noise Reduction program.

So comparing them.... hmmm... they aren't even the same thing.
Last edit: 10 Feb 2013 00:02 by Dave_EP.

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10 Feb 2013 04:07 #21136 by BenB
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If anyone has a noisy clip, I'd love to test out Phyx Cleaner and post results.

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10 Feb 2013 08:22 - 10 Feb 2013 08:23 #21139 by Dave_EP
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I'll find you some .... but it may take a day or so.

Of course, they're easy to shoot. Find a dark place and crank the ISO / Gain.
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10 Feb 2013 10:52 #21142 by simonpwood
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A side by side comparison of the same footage would be cool (Phyx vs Neat)....

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10 Feb 2013 11:23 #21144 by BenB
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Dave_EP wrote: I'll find you some .... but it may take a day or so.


It is Mardi Gras here in New Orleans and southeast LA, so nothing much gets done until Wednesday or Thursday any how. I'm working through the holidays this year, so whenever I can get something I'll test Phyx out. I don't have high hopes as their other products haven't impressed me in FCP X so far.

I did some training videos for their keyer suite of plugins, and have to say honestly that the built-in FCP X keyer was much faster, easier, and more powerful. I've tried an SD to HD converter they made, which I don't think they sell any more. It totally sucked. So it will be interested to see what Cleaner does, if anything at all.

Shame, too, cause in legacy FCP their plugins were pretty amazing. They keyer was one they wrote for Shake originally. I guess X changed the game for lots of folks.

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10 Feb 2013 17:29 #21154 by cseeman
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BenB, Phyx Keyer was updated a few weeks back to version 4. It's not clear if that's what you tried.

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10 Feb 2013 19:15 #21157 by BenB
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Yes, I know.

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11 Feb 2013 15:26 #21181 by Makki
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I hva just tested Cleaner and all I got was a blurry picture without noise th en total crash. This was a very short test and I have not tried it fully. But that was the first experience

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11 Feb 2013 22:08 #21195 by orygun
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I get a crash also a few seconds after applying their fast noise reducer. But the real hard crash I get from Cleaner is when I try to apply their deinterlacer plugin.

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13 Feb 2013 12:37 #21276 by PHYX_Inc
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BenB wrote: I did some training videos for their keyer suite of plugins, and have to say honestly that the built-in FCP X keyer was much faster, easier, and more powerful.


Thank you again Ben.
That was for PHYX Keyer 3, and I honestly agree with you that the FCP X keyer was better than PHYX Keyer at that time in FCP X. However, that is no longer the case with PHYX Keyer 4. :)

Our main issue with FCP X was it's lack of support for Dynamic UI, which our plugins depend on. So we were forced to essentially chop-apart our plugins to work as well as possible in FCP X without Dynamic UI, which was frustrating and disappointing because every other host fully supported our plugins. Apple added support for Dynamic UI late last year.

Since then, PHYX Cleaner 2 and PHYX Keyer 4 have both been completely rebuilt for Final Cut Pro X. All new controls with full Dynamic UI makes us very very happy. :)

You can download the latest build of PHYX Keyer 4 here: PHYX Keyer 4.0.1


BenB wrote: Shame, too, cause in legacy FCP their plugins were pretty amazing. They keyer was one they wrote for Shake originally.


Thank you for saying this.
We have appreciated your support and feedback. :)


Makki wrote: all I got was a blurry picture without noise th en total crash.

orygun wrote: I get a crash also a few seconds after applying their fast noise reducer. But the real hard crash I get from Cleaner is when I try to apply their deinterlacer plugin.



Please try the following:

1) Launch Final Cut Pro X

2) Bring up the Preferences window

3) Switch to the Playback section, and disable the "Background render" option



If that does not work, please:

1) Launch the FxFactory application

2) Select the "Show Diagnostic Reports in Finder" command under the "Actions" menu

3) Email these to: feedback (at) phyx.biz


Also, I'd just like to add, we are always working to improve our products. If you have any suggestions for specific improvements, please email those to the address above as well. In fact, several of Ben Balser's suggestions have made their way into PHYX products and we are grateful for that :)

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02 Mar 2013 17:51 - 02 Mar 2013 17:51 #21982 by toxotis70
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i am trying neat video in FCPX 10.0.5 and After effects cs6 (version 3.2) 64 bit , in MBP 2011 , 16GB RAM.
I try to denoise the same exact clip in both programs, same settings…. FCPX is twice slower in final render times than AE CS 6 !
Why is that ?
Last edit: 02 Mar 2013 17:51 by toxotis70.

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04 Mar 2013 16:19 #22113 by Makki
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I just boght Finisher, no crashes and great plugin

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04 Mar 2013 16:28 #22114 by Makki
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I meant Cleaner from PHYX, sorry

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