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Boris Continuum Complete for FCPX out of beta

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08 Jan 2013 15:36 #19744 by peteramwiggins
All,

Boris have announced that Continuum Complete for Final Cut Pro X is out of beta.
We previewed it here.

Have $995 ready if you want to buy it.

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08 Jan 2013 15:54 #19745 by TrixTrax9000
Would have loved to have been able to post on your product review page, but still blocked by the facebook intrusion here.

Some beautiful effects, there's no denying it. However, with economies tightening, filmmakers will increasingly be looking for deals. Since many of these effects are found in separate plugs, even some freebies offered here, the hefty price tag is problematic. That said, we greatly appreciate Boris making their generous offers of free trials & budget priced segmented packages.

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08 Jan 2013 16:36 #19748 by Makki
A plugin for 1000 dollars, never

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08 Jan 2013 17:16 #19750 by TrixTrax9000
Well, it's actually an entire collection of effects, similar to FXFactory.

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08 Jan 2013 19:33 - 08 Jan 2013 19:37 #19756 by cseeman
Maybe I'm misinterpreting but if I go to their store it says on sale for $595 until January 31.

Upgrade price shows as $295
Last edit: 08 Jan 2013 19:37 by cseeman. Reason: found upgrade price

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08 Jan 2013 20:38 #19758 by Seanus
I just don't understand this business model. Surely it would be more profitable to sell a lot more copies at a cheaper price?

If it was $99.5 instead of $995 how many here would buy a copy?

I don't think anyone is going to spend more than 3 times what the host application costs for a plugin.

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08 Jan 2013 21:28 #19759 by cseeman
Consider that NoiseIndustries is $399, I doubt that $99 would make sense given the R&D and market. I think if they held at their sale price of $595 that would be viable.
They do have a lot of very cool tools that I don't see anywhere else. Built in motion tracking for one.

That they aren't discounting the upgrade price does bother me. 40% discount for new purchases but nothing beyond the normal upgrade price for current owners.

One big difference between NoiseIndustries FXFactory is that it's a "modular" approach with third parties building new FX for it.

It might be interesting for someone to do a comparative review of the plugin collections.

FXFactory $399
CoreMelt $199
Saphire Edge $299
BCC $995

Interesting that FXFactory and CoreMelt have additional plugins for sale.
Saphire Edge has an annual subscription for new templates.
BCC costs the most up front but has no add on purchases.

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08 Jan 2013 21:37 #19760 by cseeman

Seanus wrote: ...
I don't think anyone is going to spend more than 3 times what the host application costs for a plugin.


If you're a hobbyist not likely. If you're a professional you're just looking at the value and ROI of the specific purchase.

Consider that the Avid/AVX version is $1995.
Genarts Saphire (not Edge) is $1699. Some might like to see an FCPX/Motion version of that as well.

The value of the product should be independent of the host. It's determined by the value of the targeted market IMHO.

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08 Jan 2013 22:05 #19761 by plysat

cseeman wrote:

Seanus wrote: ...
I don't think anyone is going to spend more than 3 times what the host application costs for a plugin.


... Consider that the Avid/AVX version is $1995...

Actually, that's one reason I'm considering it. I cut Trailers/TV spots for features, and generally everything goes out to online for finish. That's a problem when using a lot of FCPX plugins. They are awesome, but if they don't have an equivalent Avid version, it makes online/film finish a real PITA, because they have to recreate what I did. And, because of the awesomeness of a lot of the FCP X plugins out there, it never looks exactly the same. But if I use Boris FX, they'll likely have the same plugins.

If you're delivering finished product out of FCPX then it doesn't matter, but if you need to play nice with other NLE's, it's a consideration.

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08 Jan 2013 23:43 #19765 by Seanus
Well I am a professional but all my work is in TV these days and I know in the current economic climate they would never fork out $1000 for a set of plugins.

But I can understand the attraction if it brings compatibility with AVID systems.
Good luck to them, but I suspect there will be more downloads from Torrent sites than from their store.

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08 Jan 2013 23:48 #19766 by plysat

Seanus wrote: Well I am a professional but all my work is in TV these days and I know in the current economic climate they would never fork out $1000 for a set of plugins.

But I can understand the attraction if it brings compatibility with AVID systems.
Good luck to them, but I suspect there will be more downloads from Torrent sites than from their store.


Agreed, The compatibility thing is the only reason I can see for getting these, and in the end I probably won't. ;-) On a related note... Pixel Film released another plug in set today. They seem to have about one a day lately. And they're all really nice. And inexpensive. Damn them! LOL

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09 Jan 2013 04:28 #19767 by Seanus
Yeah I've bought about 5 of them for a grand total of about $140!

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09 Jan 2013 13:35 #19769 by BenB
FxFactory Pro is for creating your own plugins, that I don''t think is fair comparison. Regular FxFacory is free, buy only what you need. $995 is, I agree, way too much for any set of plugins. Sapphire Edge, I wrote a review, I was super disappointed in it. Very little for the price. Especially with Color Assist coming to FCPX for only $99. And that is pushing the price envelope as well.

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