How to add a Fade-In on a Clip but not create a Transition?

this drives me nuts...

i want to add a fade-in on a clip but no matter what, fcpx always adds a transition because there is a clip in front of it. vice versa if it was a fade-out.
so how do i apply the plugin (in this case nattress film-dissolve) to create a fade-in and not a transition?

in the screenshot below you can see where i want to add the fade-in.



thanks in advance

Control-V to open video animations and double clip opacity to open it. Use the fade button to ramp up the opacity.

the opacity is no good because it behaves differently then a real film fade-in, which i tried before. sorry for not writing it in my post :blush:

You could either try splitting the clip and moving it to another lane and adding a transition there or put the clip in a compound clip and adding the transition there.

Not sure what you're expecting. You could try a gap and cross dissolve from that. The gap needs to be no longer than the length of the transition.

so there is no real option to add an actual fade-in/fade-out? we always need a work-around :dry:

anyway, this is what i did - cause there is no better solution :whistle:

A fade in is a transition from black. Not sure what you're expecting, but if you fade in from black that's what you get with a cross dissolve from a gap.

The basic fade behavior from Motion covers that. There are four parameters: Fade In Time, Fade Out Time (reflects the # of frames for the duration of the fade); Start Offset and End Offset (reflects the # of frames to "pad" before or after the fades.)

If you don't have Motion, you can download this Effect here:
ftp.sight-creations.com/free_stuff/sc_missing_fade.zip

Unzip the file and move "Fade In Fade Out" into ~/Movies/Motion Templates/Effects/<category of your choice> (Basics would be a good choice)

HTH

link is dead....

From the screen shot of your solution, you could put the transition crossing between the gap clip and the Storyline clip. No reason to duplicate it as a Connected Clip.

The correct web link is here:

sight-creations.com/free_stuff/

I think what you want can be found in the effects browser: >transitions>dissolves>fade to color.

The default fade "from" color is black. This works like a standard "kiss black" transition. Hope that helps.

first off: thanks guys for all your replies

BenB wrote: From the screen shot of your solution, you could put the transition crossing between the gap clip and the Storyline clip. No reason to duplicate it as a Connected Clip.

you are right. in this case it works. but it wouldn't work if there was no gab clip.

sc_fox wrote: The basic fade behavior from Motion covers that. There are four parameters: Fade In Time, Fade Out Time (reflects the # of frames for the duration of the fade); Start Offset and End Offset (reflects the # of frames to "pad" before or after the fades.)

If you don't have Motion, you can download this Effect here:
sight-creations.com/free_stuff/sc_missing_fade.zip

Unzip the file and move "Fade In Fade Out" into ~/Movies/Motion Templates/Effects/<category of your choice> (Basics would be a good choice)

HTH

thanks for this. i tried a similar plugin from alex4d

screendor wrote: I think what you want can be found in the effects browser: >transitions>dissolves>fade to color.

The default fade "from" color is black. This works like a standard "kiss black" transition. Hope that helps.

i did try this before and it behaves like a transition if there are two clips together. it would only work as a fade-in with no clip before it.

"you are right. in this case it works. but it wouldn't work if there was no gab clip."

Yes, and you can easily insert a Gap Clip at that point, change it's duration to what you need, exactly as you've done, but with less work.

BenB wrote: "you are right. in this case it works. but it wouldn't work if there was no gab clip."

Yes, and you can easily insert a Gap Clip at that point, change it's duration to what you need, exactly as you've done, but with less work.

how would you apply a fade-in in this example (see screenshot below) without a dedicated fade-in filter like the one from alex4d or from motion provided by dgwvideo? afaik you have make a connected clip to get it to work.

Insert a Gap clip, set its duration, apply the transition.

BenB wrote: Insert a Gap clip, set its duration, apply the transition.

i tried something with your suggestion...

if i want a fade-in with a duration 6 frame i trim the clip by 3 frames using the position tool and then apply the filter.

is that what you suggested?

at least, this seams to work

The position tool will move the clip on the timeline, not trim it. Trimming can be done with the Select (A) tool or the Trim (T) tool.

i know. the clips need to stay in place and that works only with the position tool. the select/trim tool would would change the position and there for the duration. they are looked for this project.

I don't understand why some here don't seem to get bendermac's problem: he just wants transitions that you can set to either start from or end on cut, as we always have had on all NLE's (at least FCP7 and AVID, I haven't looked too much into Premiere but I'm sure it's there too). Solutions with inserting gap clips or trimming under the centered transitions seem clunky. I find that not having this is a big PITA and seems like a surprising oversight from the development team. I hope they get this feature back in the next update.