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Quadro 4000 and FCPX

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25 Oct 2012 13:04 #15781 by tvchris
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Is it just me or does the Quadro 4000 card completely SUCK for FCPX? LOL

I know it's not apple certified, but the latest drivers supposedly help its OpenCL performance, but FCPX 10.0.6 chugs and crashes constantly in my 2010 Mac Pro with 32GB of ram, whereas it FLIES on my 2010 iMac with an ATI 5850M.

Should I bite the bullet and get a 5870? Or does anyone have any hints to get the Quadro to work better. I have the latest drivers release 10/2 by nvidia. Also repaired permissions, reset PRAM, etc etc...

Thanks for your help!

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25 Oct 2012 13:09 #15783 by Tom Wolsky
Replied by Tom Wolsky on topic Quadro 4000 and FCPX
The application shouldn't launch with that card. Replace it.

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26 Oct 2012 01:34 #15845 by desilva_oz
Replied by desilva_oz on topic Quadro 4000 and FCPX
I have a question relating to this particular card also.

I have a 5770 in slot 1, and the quadro in slot 2 on a 12 core MP 2010.

How do I know which card FCPX sees? Is it the 5770 or the 4000?

Also, I have noticed 10.0.6 does not use any more then 50% of my CPU cores on export via share destinations.

Also how much better is the 5870 over the 5770 for export and overall performance in FCPX only.

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26 Oct 2012 01:43 #15846 by Krzysztof
Replied by Krzysztof on topic Quadro 4000 and FCPX
Hello

Though i can't compare the 5770 to the 5870, i can compare the GT120 to the 5870 (which i just installed yesterday). This card flies and makes all graphic functions super smooth. The functioning of this card is so transparent that it allows for the flow of FCPX to shine. Needless to say i've taken quite a shine to this card.

Well worth it.

Regards
Krzysztof

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26 Oct 2012 05:42 - 26 Oct 2012 05:44 #15858 by jmyres
Replied by jmyres on topic Quadro 4000 and FCPX
What OS version are you running? FCPX leverages OpenCL which was disabled for Nvidia cards in Lion. It is back again for Nvidia in Mountain Lion. It has never been a problem in either OS for AMD cards. So, if you are running Lion, with the Quadro, FCPX can't address OpenCL on that card.

Applications like FCPX, that utilize a single GPU for co-processing, (Realtime FX, Transitions, etc) will use whatever card is running your primary display, i.e., the one that contains your Menu Bar.

For what it's worth a 5870 has roughly double the GPU processing power of a 5770. It is currently the best OpenCL card available for OS X. The newer 6000 series, believe it or not, is actually less capable than the 5000 series. We will see a nice jump though, possibly a 2x improvement in performance, when the 7000-series Radeons finally become available on OS X, namely the 7870, and possibly the 7970. But, that probably won't happen until next year. So, for now, if you have a 5870, you are running the best possible option available for FCPX.

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Last edit: 26 Oct 2012 05:44 by jmyres.

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26 Oct 2012 06:43 #15859 by desilva_oz
Replied by desilva_oz on topic Quadro 4000 and FCPX
Great, that clears up a lot.
So if I have the quadro powering my main display, on mountain lion, FCPX 10.0.6 will utilize the open CL on this card? Or is that not possible. Is the 5870 still the king at this stage?

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26 Oct 2012 07:08 #15861 by desilva_oz
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tvchris wrote: Is it just me or does the Quadro 4000 card completely SUCK for FCPX? LOL

I know it's not apple certified, but the latest drivers supposedly help its OpenCL performance, but FCPX 10.0.6 chugs and crashes constantly in my 2010 Mac Pro with 32GB of ram, whereas it FLIES on my 2010 iMac with an ATI 5850M.

Should I bite the bullet and get a 5870? Or does anyone have any hints to get the Quadro to work better. I have the latest drivers release 10/2 by nvidia. Also repaired permissions, reset PRAM, etc etc...

Thanks for your help!

I can confirm on a 2010 12 core with 64gb of ram running 10.8.2
Is working with 10.0.6 with no funny business.

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26 Oct 2012 14:26 #15872 by tvchris
Replied by tvchris on topic Quadro 4000 and FCPX
Thanks Desilva,

Are you running the latest nvidia drivers with latest CUDA? Just wondering what my problem could be.

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26 Oct 2012 21:35 #15893 by desilva_oz
Replied by desilva_oz on topic Quadro 4000 and FCPX

tvchris wrote: Thanks Desilva,

Are you running the latest nvidia drivers with latest CUDA? Just wondering what my problem could be.

Plug and play, I can't remember if there were updates via "software updates" but I did not download any from nvidia.

Got the 4000 in bay 2 powering the main menu monitor.

Fcpx is working as normal, not sure if its faster than the 5770 tho!

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26 Oct 2012 23:37 #15900 by rogersuski
Replied by rogersuski on topic Quadro 4000 and FCPX
Anyone out there with a GTX 680? That seems to be the darling of the CUDA side. Would love to know now FCPX 10.0.6 is rocking with one of those cards.

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27 Oct 2012 00:09 - 27 Oct 2012 00:11 #15902 by jmyres
Replied by jmyres on topic Quadro 4000 and FCPX
The nicest CUDA card available for a Mac Pro right now is a GTX 580, but it draws enough current that you may put your logic board at risk, so a GTX 570 is a great, quiet, cool-running option if you want to play it on the safe side. FCPX doesn't leverage CUDA, but if you are using an app like DaVinci Resolve it is a much stronger card than an AMD 5780, as Resolve isn't well-optimized for OpenCL yet.

There was a lot of excitement about the GTX 600 series initially, but from a compute (i.e. CUDA) standpoint it has been a bit of a let-down. A GTX 570 is actually about 10% faster than the GTX 680. But, it's out of production now, so the toughest part is finding them easily.

As far as FCPX goes, a GTX running Mountain Lion should work in the same way the Quadro does. In the past, it seemed that FCP7, and now FCPX never worked quite as well on Nvidia as they did on AMD. But, with the GTX 600's showing up in the new iMac and Retina Mac Book Pro, this may be changing.

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Last edit: 27 Oct 2012 00:11 by jmyres.

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