Slip Edits

I was just about to put in some feedback requesting the option to perform a slip edit with any connected clips maintaining their relative positioning on the timeline via a modifier key.

First I thought I'd post here incase I was missing something and someone had a found a way to do it, hopefully.

It works just fine on Connected Ciips. Hit "T" for the Trim tool, click and hold in the middle of the clip, drag left & right. Just like any other clip.

OR

Hit "T" for the Trim tool, click in the middle of the clip, type in minus or plus and timecode you want to slip by.

OR

Hit "T" for the Trim tool, click in the middle of the clip, use the < and > keys to slip.

I know how to slip clips by all those methods, maybe I never worded it well.

When I have a clip in a storyline with a another clip connected to it and I slip the storyline clip the connected clip moves with it, the attach point remains attached to the original frame, which is often great.

What I'm looking for is the option to have the connected clip remain in it's over all timeline position, i.e. If a connected clip sits at 00:01:12 on the timeline, then when the story line clip is slipped the connected clip remains at 00:01:12 rather than traveling with the slip.

Wow! I know it didn't work like that a version or two back! That's really not good. I can't see any way around it. Good catch. It may be nice to have it stay in one place, but use an option key so it would move. I can see both being handy. But as is, yeah, that's not good. Feedback page again...

The only workaround I found in this case is to lift the clip from primary storyline (CMD - OPT - Up Arrow), trim it, then overwrite to primary storyline (CMD - OPT - Down Arrow).
I agree that a modifier key would be very convenient.

An easier/quicker workaround is just to perform the slip, then move the connected clips back by the same amount of frames in the relevant direction.

But bring on the modifier key, it would make it perfect.

Now we have the flexible clip connections I just put in a feature request for an enhancement, I thought I'd add it here hoping that others may like the sound of it and do the same.

I'd like to be able to select a clip, hold down the tilde key and use the trim single frames, or 10 frames, and the next/previous edit point keys to move the clip connection with more precision.

It sounds pretty handy. Especially for getting the connection back to the start of a clip, if it has been moved, ready for re-timing.

You can revoke your feedback.

What you do is use the tilde key when slipping. It keeps the connected clip anchored to the timeline.

I know that Sean, that's what I was looking for when I originally started this thread and they gave us flexible clip connections.

What I'd like now is to be able to move the connections with more precision. The idea came when I tried to re-time a clip with the connection point at the middle of a clip. The retime maintains the connection and adjusts the clips timing around that point. Which is great for keeping a certain frame in synch.

But getting that connection back to the start, if desired, means zooming right in on the timeline. Precise control would make it easier to set the datum frame for retiming or for easily resetting a connection point to the start.

You can use the trim buttons too mate. Highlight the clip with the trim tool, then while holding down tilde use the trim keys.

And there something also about the option key as well but I've forgotten what it was and not I front of a machine.

Oh and sorry it popped up as a new post but I see it was actually old. Hence my stupid answer. :whistle:

Maybe I'm not explaining this right Sean, or perhaps I should have started a new thread I just thought I'd add it here as it seemed related.

The slip thing was before, this is different. I'm talking about moving the connection point, nothing on the clip moves.

Currently we hold down alt and cmd, then click on the clip to change the location of the connection point without affecting the clip in any way.

What I want is to be able to move it with more precision. I mentioned by using the tilde key before, but the alt-cmd modifiers would be just as good.

So instead of holding down alt-cmd and clicking the clip at the point to change it to, it would give the option to hold down alt-cmd and use the trim keys to set its position instead.

Oh right I got you now. Sorry mate it's late and should really be sleeping but it's too hot.

I really think it would be a very niche thing to do. Certainly not anything I've ever wished for. I guess it could come in handy if you we're doing a lot of fast cutting and needed connected clips anchored to certain frames.

No problem Sean, if it was the other way round it wouldn't be the first time I wasn't picking something up as it was meant.

Kind of back on to the original issue here's that trick using the option key. As discovered by Michael Garber.





Link. vimeo.com/52496933

Pretty cool... didn't even think about this option.

The original post was actually before the 10.06 update that introduced flexible connections and was basically addressing the problem of not having it at all.

I think, well so far, I'm quite happy with using the tilde modifier key, but perhaps that tip may come in useful at some time. Thanks for sharing the link.