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Match Frame While Using Multi Cam
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23 Jul 2012 20:48 #11956
by Scott Markowitz
Match Frame While Using Multi Cam was created by Scott Markowitz
I have completed my first major project in FCP X using their multi cam function.
The best part was setting up the multi cam (very easy and powerful)
The second best part was doing my camera switching (Fast and easy with the angle viewer)
I seem to be missing something when it comes to doing the fine edit, though.
-- Does anyone know how to match back to the multi cam clip from within a compound clip that lives inside my event?--
(I have not made a project for the edit yet, as I want to to share this cut with other editors when the time comes to customize the edit)
In my normal multi cam work flow (Talking Avid, here) I would:
1. make in-out points in multi cam clip, and then edit these chunks into timeline
2. I would make sure the audio edit was working- trimming clips in timeline as needed.
3. I would go back and pick camera angles
4. Cover audio edits with extended previous camera angles or cover by extending the next shot backward.
It's this 4th step that seems to be harder in fcp X than I would like.
Because:
1. I can;t seem to separate the audio track from the video track like in a normal clip
2. Detaching the audio from the multi cam clip in my compound clip timeline is not allowed.
3. Doing a match frame to my original footage is not functioning.
Can anybody offer any ideas to make multi cam a happier experience?
Thank you, in advance.
The best part was setting up the multi cam (very easy and powerful)
The second best part was doing my camera switching (Fast and easy with the angle viewer)
I seem to be missing something when it comes to doing the fine edit, though.
-- Does anyone know how to match back to the multi cam clip from within a compound clip that lives inside my event?--
(I have not made a project for the edit yet, as I want to to share this cut with other editors when the time comes to customize the edit)
In my normal multi cam work flow (Talking Avid, here) I would:
1. make in-out points in multi cam clip, and then edit these chunks into timeline
2. I would make sure the audio edit was working- trimming clips in timeline as needed.
3. I would go back and pick camera angles
4. Cover audio edits with extended previous camera angles or cover by extending the next shot backward.
It's this 4th step that seems to be harder in fcp X than I would like.
Because:
1. I can;t seem to separate the audio track from the video track like in a normal clip
2. Detaching the audio from the multi cam clip in my compound clip timeline is not allowed.
3. Doing a match frame to my original footage is not functioning.
Can anybody offer any ideas to make multi cam a happier experience?
Thank you, in advance.
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24 Jul 2012 08:37 #11964
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Replied by jjsanderson on topic Re: Match Frame While Using Multi Cam
You can't match frame back to the source clip, only the multicam compound - and yes, this is sometimes a pain. You also can't detach the audio, which makes less sense to me - I get that the multicam clip might contain more than two channels, but that should still be separable. At the moment, the multicam feature rather requires you to mix the audio in the angle viewer, which is a bit of a mess. Thankfully, "multichannel audio mixing" is on the FCPX roadmap for this year.
However, in this case I'm not clear that you need to separate the audio at all. Can you not double-click the clip to expand the audio and video (or ctrl+s), and perform J/L cuts in the usual way?
Apologies if you're familiar with that technique, but I've a suspicion that it's one of the editing mechanics that's less-discovered by FCPX editors. The range of situations in which I find I have to separate the audio is extremely limited - as in, I'm currently cutting 5x6 mins mini docs, and I think I have four stray audio clips throughout. Everything else is done with expanded audio/video.
However, in this case I'm not clear that you need to separate the audio at all. Can you not double-click the clip to expand the audio and video (or ctrl+s), and perform J/L cuts in the usual way?
Apologies if you're familiar with that technique, but I've a suspicion that it's one of the editing mechanics that's less-discovered by FCPX editors. The range of situations in which I find I have to separate the audio is extremely limited - as in, I'm currently cutting 5x6 mins mini docs, and I think I have four stray audio clips throughout. Everything else is done with expanded audio/video.
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25 Jul 2012 01:20 #12022
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Replied by Scott Markowitz on topic Re: Match Frame While Using Multi Cam
Thank you for the response.
Ctrl-S does in fact expand the audio as in a normal storyline clip.
The problem I'm having is that I cannot detach the audio.
The work around for me has become the following:
1.) Option Drag a clip with good video up to make a duplicate, and I let it become a connected clip to itself.
2.) turn audio volume all the way to 0
3.) drag out or extend clip in which ever direction I need to cover up the audio edit.
It's not an ideal way to work, but it's working for now.
I encourage everyone to submit a request to Apple stating you want a multi cam clip to behave EXACTLY as any other clip would in a storyline. Meaning that we can manipulate it in the same fashions we see fit.
Cheers,
and thanks again,
Scott Markowitz
Ctrl-S does in fact expand the audio as in a normal storyline clip.
The problem I'm having is that I cannot detach the audio.
The work around for me has become the following:
1.) Option Drag a clip with good video up to make a duplicate, and I let it become a connected clip to itself.
2.) turn audio volume all the way to 0
3.) drag out or extend clip in which ever direction I need to cover up the audio edit.
It's not an ideal way to work, but it's working for now.
I encourage everyone to submit a request to Apple stating you want a multi cam clip to behave EXACTLY as any other clip would in a storyline. Meaning that we can manipulate it in the same fashions we see fit.
Cheers,
and thanks again,
Scott Markowitz
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