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20 Jul 2012 22:58 #11858 by Seanus
Image Sequences was created by Seanus
What do you guys use to make image sequences? I used to use QuckTime Pro but since deleting Final Cut Studio from my system I've lost the pro registration.

Don't want to reinstall just to get that feature back. Can you do it in Motion?

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21 Jul 2012 02:36 #11861 by cgbier
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Motion or Photoshop

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21 Jul 2012 04:22 - 21 Jul 2012 04:23 #11863 by BenB
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Really? You don't have QT 7 Player anymore? Wow, that bites. You can always buy it as a stand alone for $20 or so from Apple. I though it'd stay if you had X on your system.

FCP X will export image sequences, as well as Motion.
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21 Jul 2012 06:16 #11870 by Seanus
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Yeah I was a bit disappointed to discover that. So how do you do it in Motion? I've done a couple in FCP X but not a fan of the workflow.

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21 Jul 2012 10:16 - 21 Jul 2012 10:40 #11873 by Dawar
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Just to be sure, do you want to export or import an image sequence ?
Because I also used QuickTime Pro to convert an image sequence to import in FCP7.

For export you can easily do it with FCPX from the Share Menu, choosing whatever format you want, png, tiff... (it seems not tga)

For converting an image sequence to use in FCPX, you can import it in Motion, or in Compressor then share the project to obtain a .mov file, like we did in QT Pro.

In Motion, Import File, then choose your first image and check "Image Sequence" in the dialog box.
In Compressor, "Add an image sequence". Don't forget to check frequence in the inspector after importing.
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21 Jul 2012 10:47 #11874 by Andreas Kiel
Replied by Andreas Kiel on topic Re: Image Sequences
I think QT Player 7 Pro is still a good investment.
You can create a referenced movie out of an image sequence within seconds. Or make an image sequence out of a movie
I also can do a lot of other handy things.

Andreas

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21 Jul 2012 13:36 #11875 by mobiletaylor
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Yes, Motion should work just fine. Here is a conversation I had about using Motion for time lapse stuff:

forums.creativecow.net/thread/170/870609

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21 Jul 2012 14:38 - 21 Jul 2012 14:42 #11877 by BenB
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Image sequence import into Motion is even easier in the File Browser. Not only in how you see it there, but in how Motion handles it automatically.

In the File Browser pane, bottom right, is a button that looks like a stack of videos. It's left most in the group of three buttons, the other two being the Icon View and List View for the browser/library.

Gray is shows images in a sequence as images. Blue it automatically treats image sequences as a single file, and automatically treats them as a movie when imported.

Once imported re-timing it is a snap, and very good quality.

Motion is actually very flexible and very good at dealing with image sequences in a variety of ways once imported.
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21 Jul 2012 15:09 #11882 by Seanus
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Thanks guys. I'll check it out. As for QT7Pro there is no way I'm going to spend 1¢ on something I technically already own and which is flagged as dead technology by Apple.

Sean Lander - Editing since 1982 - AVID 1991 - FCP 1999 - FCPX 2011

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21 Jul 2012 16:47 #11886 by BenB
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Technically it came free with Final Cut before. But for the price of Studio, who could tell? But yeah, I tried to move the app over to my MBP which I removed FCS from, and it's the non-Pro version. I'm trying to find out if there's some system file that can be transferred to make it pro again that way.

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24 Jul 2012 10:48 - 24 Jul 2012 11:34 #11969 by Seanus
Replied by Seanus on topic Re: Image Sequences

BenB wrote: Gray is shows images in a sequence as images. Blue it automatically treats image sequences as a single file, and automatically treats them as a movie when imported.

Once imported re-timing it is a snap, and very good quality.

Motion is actually very flexible and very good at dealing with image sequences in a variety of ways once imported.


OMG this is brilliant! Much easier to deal with than QT7! These images are massive so the options for me to pan and scan are tremendous.

Thanks Ben. More good Karma coming your way! ;)



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24 Jul 2012 12:41 - 18 Jan 2013 11:41 #11970 by Seanus
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And here's the end result.


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24 Jul 2012 14:29 #11972 by BenB
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Wow, that looks amazing! I'd love to shoot time lapse stars looking directly up through the trees on my property, but I suck at photography. Looks amazing! What was the process?

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24 Jul 2012 14:47 #11975 by VidGreg
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As to QT7Pro, entering the original registration # should convert Qt7 to QT7 Pro. Try it and let us know if it works for you.
You can extract QT from original FCS disk, enter Reg# at launch and should show up as Pro

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24 Jul 2012 15:01 - 24 Jul 2012 15:04 #11976 by BenB
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Couple of questions on that.

How do you extract QT 7 Player from the original FCS 3 disks? I don't see a way to get to it by itself.

Where do you get the QT 7 Pro s/n from when FCS installs that automatically?
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24 Jul 2012 16:09 #11981 by VidGreg
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BenB
Several ways to get QT7,
Easiest is to just re-download from Apple... support.apple.com/kb/dl923
Here's MacWorld article... www.macworld.com/article/1161320/lion_quicktime7.html includes some extra info, need to know. QT7 standard includes all Pro files, S/N only unlocks the restricted parts so you will spend extra $30.00.

You can also extract from Install disks, control click>show contents
Use pacifist
Go commando CLi terminal

S/N on DVD package. Also, I think under FSC/QT/Motion etc... prefs, and a couple of other places I don't remember just now (About ... app menu or get info maybe?) Try clicking register, number should show up if installed on computer.
Sorry on different computer now so can't check.
The above MacWorld article includes how to retrieve from Apple.
I had issue while upgrading FCP5>7 and QT wouldn't activate Pro, so had to manually insert S/N number. HD in head removed that data long ago.

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24 Jul 2012 16:30 - 24 Jul 2012 16:32 #11984 by BenB
Replied by BenB on topic Re: Image Sequences
There is no QT installer or Player component in the FCStudio installer's contents.

Tried entering the FCStudio s/n and it will NOT take it as a QT Pro s/n.

You can't retrieve the QT Pro s/n via the method in that article if it was installed via FCStudio. As it is not listed as being purchased from the Apple online store.

In Lion (haven't looked at SL in ages) no FCP 7 Pro s/n shows up anywhere.

Been trying these methods all morning, unless I'm missing something.
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24 Jul 2012 21:07 #12003 by Seanus
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Agreed. I was gutted to see I'd lost my QTPro. But not so unhappy now. :cheer:

Ben. This was shot with the Canon 5D Mk II with a 14 mm lens and an intervalometer.
ISO set to 2500, lens 2.8 (wide open) and shutter speed 30 seconds.

The trick is to take test shots with ISO set as high it can go it makes it's much easier to determin your framing and focus. The duration of that shot was a little under 4 hours. Sadly the batteries gave out sooner than I expected in the freezing cold.

The next one I did I used my battery grip with two fresh batteries and got all the way through the night.

Sean Lander - Editing since 1982 - AVID 1991 - FCP 1999 - FCPX 2011

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24 Jul 2012 23:06 #12012 by BenB
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Seanus, I'm doing to do some tests now that the rains are clearing up and we have some clear skies for a change. I may be posting here to get some advice along the way.

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25 Jul 2012 00:28 #12019 by Seanus
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Currently in an edit session but I'll try to keep my eye on the forums. Good luck.

If your using a Canon lens make sure you don't just wind it all the way past infinity. Sounds crazy but they go to infinity AND BEYOND! Dial it back to the little L shaped marker.

Sean Lander - Editing since 1982 - AVID 1991 - FCP 1999 - FCPX 2011

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