Transitions Make Background Show Through?

Ok, so basically I was shooting some short videos with a blown out white backdrop, similar to Apple commercials, etc.

I had lights on the talents face and they are partially in the shot. I figured i could just crop them out, and drop some white image below the video so its totally seamless white. It looks great and it works until i try to put a fade in or cross dissolve.

When i do this, even with the cropped video and the white img below it as a Compound Clip, it still occurs...The stupid thing is, i've done this before somehow - no problem!

Obviously i can't see what I'm doing wrong, but maybe someone out there can tell me where I'm missing?

Ive attached an example of what the transition looks like vs the actual video...


www.dropbox.com/s/tru1zxjx815kyqg/transitionissue.png

www.dropbox.com/s/ffdmyaqsmeiipl5/transistionissue1.png

I restarted FCPX and i was able to get the beginning of the video to transition (fade in) correctly...but the tail end of the video still is showing through?

Restart not helping...Anyone have any ideas?

I've had issues like this before. And I remember it was a question of something not liking being in a compound clip or secondary storyline. I think I had to deconstruct the compound clip and put everything together in the main project.

Not sure if that helps. I had issues with this in FCP7 too. Basically if the transition doesn't work, try reordering the elements to make it work in a different way.

Can you send a pic of your project timeline?

yeah here is the whole timeline, and then the contents of the compound clip.

It wasn't working when it was just on the main timeline so i put it on the compound clip and the intro fade in worked but the fade out at the end is still being weird...

www.dropbox.com/s/g91xs25vzp5kh11/timeline.png

www.dropbox.com/s/feqaqxku16beh0s/compound_clip.png

Ive even exported just the raw video clip + white background in the Compound Clip as a ProRes file and brought it back in, but it still somehow does it!

How is that even possible? Theres no information besides pure white in an exported clip...SO WEIRD!

Ok, yes. This is looking familiar. Are these just short clips for web?

My suggestion would be to remove the dissolves from the compound clip. Instead, create a black solid as a connected clip above it and put a dissolve ON THAT, that FADES TO the compound clip. Do the same at the end and fade to a black solid vs fading out the compound clip.

it still does it...

very good idea though...i managed to get the tail to "fade out to white" and then end on a block of a white so it appears the video transitioned out, but really it its just a crossfade between the two clips and then just abrupt stop...

this is ridiculous though...there has got to be a way to do this...

My next suggestion would be to break apart the compound clip. Have the white solids above the white background and your shot footage, and still fade to and from the solids.

Thanks for the help.

This real issue here is why is one video i did yesterday, working perfectly in this way and the one i try to do today in the SAME EXACT way not working?

Have you tried fading in/out using the opacity handles on the clip (Ctrl + V) rather than a transition?

yeah, same effect...


it seems to be isolated to the first of three videos i shot though now that I've worked on the next two...

i believe i closed down the f/stop one stop and bumped the iso up one notch, to get the same exposure with a little less shallow depth of field, which is what video 2 and 3 are set at. I don't see how that would really make a clean transition impossible for video 1 though...? Its still just a totally blown out white background with the talents face separately lit to expose it correctly...