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Attached clips are "shrinking" along the edges by about a pixel, any clips below show through.
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Basically, most of the clips that are above the main Storyline, as Attached Clips, Secondary Storylines or Compound Clips, seem to be shrinking by a couple pixels along all edges. The result is that if there happens to be an active video image below them, it shows through along those edges.
It's most visible in this image along the left and bottom borders (I should clarify that I'm referring to the white bits, the grey along all the edges was intentional to provide a neutral background).
The only constant I've noticed so far is that it seems to be happening solely on footage that was originally interlaced (which has since been optimized on import and mixed with progressive footage in a project with progressive settings).
The only other thing I've noticed while trying to figure this out, is that toggling effects on and off (such as vignette or custom color presets) seems to affect how bad the "shrinkage" is.
Apologies if this is an amateur-hour question, but I don't recall ever running into this issue before when mixing interlaced and progressive. Or maybe I just didn't notice.
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What is the frame size of these clips, what is the frame size of the Timeline?
What is the Conform parameter set to for these clips? What if you set it to "Fill"?
I've never seen this issue. Very interesting.
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What is the format and origin of these problem clips?
They were shot with a GH2 at 1080i/29.97.
What is the frame size of these clips, what is the frame size of the Timeline?
Both the frame size of the clips and the timeline are 1920x1080/29.97. The only difference is that the timeline is set to 1080p as that's what the primary camera on the project was shooting at.
What is the Conform parameter set to for these clips? What if you set it to "Fill"?
Ooooh, this was a good one I hadn't considered. Spatial Conform was set to "Fit", but sadly changing to "Fill" had no effect (as did "None"). I also took this opportunity to try the different options on Rate Conform, but alas none of these had any effect either.
I've never seen this issue. Very interesting.
Nor have I, though this is my first project in FCPX and it's so consistent across the entire timeline that only interlaced clips exhibit this behavior that I'm starting to wonder if it's a bug. Though I also recognize that I don't know what I don't know so I wanted to consult with the wealth of experience that congregates here as well.
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Change the view to Settings View and change the field dominance to progressive.
Any effect?
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before dropping it into the timeline. Changing it retrospectively sends FCPX
into a bit of a flap!! Red Render line is consistent and repeatable and feedback
sent
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Make a new Project and either chose "custom" and set it to manually be 1080i29.97, or set it for the project to conform to the first clip.
Tried this but surprisingly did the exact same thing. I really expected this to work. But not so fast...
Just for kicks, select the offending shots and go to the Inspector and Info
Change the view to Settings View and change the field dominance to progressive.
Again, no change. Until...
Well, the trick seems to be change the field dominance override in the event
before dropping it into the timeline.
Winner, winner, chicken dinner!!
If I go back to, say, the clip I posted the screenshot of and select it in the event, change the dominance to progressive in the settings view of the inspector and then replace it back into the timeline, the mysterious gap along the border is gone.
I tried it on multiple clips, both as simple Connected Clips as well as within Compound Clips that were attached to the main storyline and they all worked.
So, in conclusion, there seems to be something going on with interlaced footage and full resolution. The really odd thing is, both the problem and solution persisted, even with a fresh Project file set to 1080i as BenB suggested.
Guess it's time to fire up the ol' Apple feedback form and let them know about this. Though I may do some experimenting with my GH2 first just to confirm that I don't have some wonky setting on there screwing this all up.
My thanks to you both for helping me track this down! You guys rock!
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