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12 Jun 2012 00:17 #9573 by BenB
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More hardware to be announced in a few months. But the new Retnia MBP seems to be the way I may go now. Sell the tower and 2008 MBP, get a new Retina MBP and T'bolt RAID. Done.

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12 Jun 2012 00:21 #9574 by installationspace
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I wouldn't buy the next gen MBP until we see performance tests for FCPX and Motion 5. 4X the resolution on basically the same video card may actually hinder performance. See the data, go into an Apple Store with a TB drive and edit for a few minutes, see how it performs before you buy.

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12 Jun 2012 00:35 #9575 by Mike Petty
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Looks like EOL for the Mac Pro kids...the NEW versions in the Apple Store DO NOT have Thunderbolt.
Wow...why would they bring out new models without Thunderbolt?
Mystified.

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12 Jun 2012 00:40 #9576 by BenB
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Apple said during keynote the next update of FCP X would support Retina display. When using previous releases of FCP X on retina display, FCP X will use "pixel doubling", which means lower resolution.

There are no "new" Mac Pros in the Apple store. Nothing was mention about iMacs, that doesn't mean they're dropping them. Just not releasing updates today.

Besides, I'd rather go with a good MBP than a tower these days. I'm selling off my tower, and not looking back.

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12 Jun 2012 00:42 #9577 by installationspace
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LOL, could it be a mistake? This opinion may be contrary to others thoughts, but even if Mac Pros are not really updated it doesn't mean Apple is leaving Editors in the dust. Editors must adapt to changes in the market as much as manufacturers need to adapt.

If I were in the market for a new mac, I'd buy up the remaining supply of refurbished 17" Macbook Pros. You get a deal and will still get good performance for 3 years.

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12 Jun 2012 00:47 #9578 by installationspace
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Next Gen Macbook Pro w/ fastest processor, 16GB RAM, 768GB SSD, Superdrive (just for laughs), Gigabit Adapter, Thunderbolt Display, and 12TB Pegasus RAID is $7,355 (before tax). Not too bad for a somewhat complete editing suite minus the broadcast equipment.

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12 Jun 2012 00:59 #9579 by BenB
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Why a Gigabit Ethernet adapter? I've not plugged my MB or MBP into an Ethernet cable in almost two years.

I have and FSI monitor, so all I'd need is an AJA T-Tap and T'bolt RAID. Selling off my MP tower with an LHi card in it, and my 17" MBP would make the upgrade very bearable. Plus all the extra drives I can sell off.

One computer, studio and travel, no more syncing app and plugins, lots less maintenance and headaches, I'm looking forward to it.

Will be interesting to see the FCP X retina display version installed on one of those new puppies. Will be paying the Apple retail store a visit when it's released next week (hopefully).

Major Aperture update, too. Looking forward to that.

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12 Jun 2012 01:04 #9580 by Scrubelicious
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Why not? Gigabit Ethernet is faster then that slow unsecured wireless stuff. :woohoo:
Man you have missed out for 2 years now? :P

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12 Jun 2012 01:04 #9581 by installationspace
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Try uploading 1080p dailies via Wifi and get back to me on that one. The upload speeds alone over Gigabit Ethernet are worth it with a stable, 30MBps+ up/down connection. Wifi speeds don't come close to networked ethernet.

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12 Jun 2012 01:11 #9582 by simonpwood
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I'm pissed that the 17" MBP is really dead. End of an era?
So many other PC multimedia laptops are going for the bigger screens, its kind of a shame there will be no option for mac users (a lot of gaming pc laptops are also going big, also odd considering Apple actually made a point out of gaming with the new MBP).

Still, at least my 17" was the last of line, and specced out. Should last me a few good years.

Using Apple TV we can now use our TV's as an external monitor to edit on (in Mountain Lion)?

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12 Jun 2012 01:18 #9583 by marchyman
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BenB wrote: There are no "new" Mac Pros in the Apple store.


Apparently Apple thinks otherwise. There is a "new" icon above the Mac Pro icon on this page in the Apple Store . Apparently the processor has been upgraded to a Xeon X5675 and is slightly faster.

I'm still waiting for a new generation iMac. Someday.

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12 Jun 2012 01:20 - 12 Jun 2012 01:21 #9584 by BenB
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First, I never said I was up/down loading via WiFi, so why are you guys attacking me about something I never said?

I've been on fibre in the studios that require it, but not on Ethernet. Don't assume every studio in the world is set up the same.

So, you ask where have I been for the last two years? I've been on fibre channel.

But more and more of the work we do here has been remote locations where lugging a tower around is not practical. Not everyone works this way, but we do.

Come on guys, everyone is going to have an opinion on what they need. Let's not turn this into personal bickering.
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12 Jun 2012 01:21 #9585 by installationspace
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Notice how the design of the next Gen Macbook Pro has Thunderbolt on the left, HDMI on the Right? This was done on purpose so pro editors can use a Thunderbolt display / storage on the left and a Broadcast HDMI monitor on the right. This is huge in terms of connecting displays. Isn't it the first time since the Powerbook that a broadcast standard port was actually on the side of a Mac notebook?

Why are you pissed at the end of the 17" Macbook Pro? The resolution increase of the Retina Display is going to be dramatically better than that of the 17".

Using an Apple TV over AirDisplay will result in horrible performance. A connected, calibrated monitor is still your best bet and on the next gen Macbook Pro you can connect one via HDMI!

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12 Jun 2012 01:43 #9588 by Scrubelicious
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YouTube over Fiber that could rock now.
We need both ethernet and fiber for our SAN and WiFi is banned :(

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13 Jun 2012 06:59 - 13 Jun 2012 07:06 #9702 by installationspace
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Tim Cook verified over email that new Mac Pros will be coming in 2013.

www.appleinsider.com/articles/12/06/12/t..._coming_in_2013.html

I think the more time they take to redesign the better. I know many pros are anxious over this topic, but its for the best. Hopefully Apple will work with Intel to completely eliminate the bottleneck in the front side bus of most desktops and make the Mac Pro both quieter, less prone to dust, and fully integrate Thunderbolt. I wouldn't be surprised if we see a shift from internal storage, the elimination of optical drives, and the adoption of USB3.0.
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13 Jun 2012 07:01 #9704 by dgwvideo
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If only Apple would bundle them with SMOKE :lol:

Creating history....one edit at a time !

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13 Jun 2012 17:50 #9725 by simonpwood
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installationspace wrote:
Why are you pissed at the end of the 17" Macbook Pro? The resolution increase of the Retina Display is going to be dramatically better than that of the 17".

Using an Apple TV over AirDisplay will result in horrible performance. A connected, calibrated monitor is still your best bet and on the next gen Macbook Pro you can connect one via HDMI!


Quality is good, but size is always better.

When you have a group of people crowding around you looking at clips in the field you want size.

But, the 17" was never that popular outside of graphic designers, photographers and filmmakers.

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13 Jun 2012 20:46 #9736 by BenB
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Retina 15" MBP can't be upgraded. RAM is soldered on, SSD can't be upgraded. OWC just confirmed this for me.

MacRumors.com has a link to iFixIt's breakdown. Least repairable Apple laptop to date.

Also, they have a link to benchmark tests. The non-Retinal 15" MBP is faster than the retina version. So, do I want a sharp TINY screen to edit on? Or do I want resolution that works just fine for editing in a faster laptop?

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