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Zoom H1 Wav KHz/Bit
05 Jun 2015 03:29 #65238
by kman198
Zoom H1 Wav KHz/Bit was created by kman198
Greetings...
Bought the Zoom H1, do not understand the KHz/Bit settings.
A post I found outside FCP.co suggests 24 Bit when syncing in FCPX
(My Canon XA10 is set to a Frame Rate of 60i)
The Zoom H1 gives me several KHz options when selecting a Bit rate of 24. 44 KHz, 48 KHz, and 96 KHz.
How might the KHz setting play out when syncing to my XA?
Kman
Bought the Zoom H1, do not understand the KHz/Bit settings.
A post I found outside FCP.co suggests 24 Bit when syncing in FCPX
(My Canon XA10 is set to a Frame Rate of 60i)
The Zoom H1 gives me several KHz options when selecting a Bit rate of 24. 44 KHz, 48 KHz, and 96 KHz.
How might the KHz setting play out when syncing to my XA?
Kman
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05 Jun 2015 05:10 #65240
by Karsten Schlüter
Have you understood the 'compression thing' with video? resolution + bit-rate? Same:
the kHz is the sample rate aka 'frames per second'. They eye is slow, the ear does better: for video , the standard is 48kHz (48.ooo samples/'frames' per second, independently from 24p, 25, 29.97, 30, ....).
The bit-rate tells, with what precision each sample is 'analized', same as with jpegs: low bit-rates = small files but bad quality, high bit-rates = big files but better quality.
Here, it gets a bit muddy waters, 'cause: diff. codecs are diff. effective. and talking person, mono, asks for less datas than a Dolby Surround playback of an orchestra .....
192kbit/sec is a common setting for stereo delivery. 320kbit/s for example is highest setting for playback mp3s..... again: depending on what codec, ...
For Audio recording for video, you have to use 48kHz, and select, if optional, wav, aac or pcm as codec (don't record in mp3 for video editing).
savvy?
.. the audiophiles on this board will tell you higher values are a must ...
btw: any audio record engineer tells you, the 'standard' is 44.1kHz.... indeed, but for CDs, not for video, using 44.1kHz could lead to lose synch with the pics.
Replied by Karsten Schlüter on topic Zoom H1 Wav KHz/Bit
…do not understand the KHz/Bit settings. …
Have you understood the 'compression thing' with video? resolution + bit-rate? Same:
the kHz is the sample rate aka 'frames per second'. They eye is slow, the ear does better: for video , the standard is 48kHz (48.ooo samples/'frames' per second, independently from 24p, 25, 29.97, 30, ....).
The bit-rate tells, with what precision each sample is 'analized', same as with jpegs: low bit-rates = small files but bad quality, high bit-rates = big files but better quality.
Here, it gets a bit muddy waters, 'cause: diff. codecs are diff. effective. and talking person, mono, asks for less datas than a Dolby Surround playback of an orchestra .....
192kbit/sec is a common setting for stereo delivery. 320kbit/s for example is highest setting for playback mp3s..... again: depending on what codec, ...
For Audio recording for video, you have to use 48kHz, and select, if optional, wav, aac or pcm as codec (don't record in mp3 for video editing).
savvy?
.. the audiophiles on this board will tell you higher values are a must ...
btw: any audio record engineer tells you, the 'standard' is 44.1kHz.... indeed, but for CDs, not for video, using 44.1kHz could lead to lose synch with the pics.
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05 Jun 2015 12:57 - 05 Jun 2015 12:58 #65257
by BenB
Replied by BenB on topic Zoom H1 Wav KHz/Bit
Video standard is 48kHz, 16-bit.
24-bit is used when there will be a lot of processing/filters, but only if you're using high bit rate filters, such as in a DAW.
Almost all human beings can NOT hear the difference between 16-bit and higher bit rates. Some experienced engineers have tested to barely hear it, but you don't do it to sound better, you do higher bit rates to keep head room when doing heavy processing, which few editors do. Goes double for sample rates, anything higher than 44.1kHz and only the very few with super sensitive hearing can tell any quality or fidelity difference.
Stick with 48kHz and 16-bit and you will be perfectly safe, and have great quality audio (provided you use a good quality mic).
As Karsten said, sample rate is the most important. If you record a different sample rate than 48kHz, and put it in a 48kHz standard Timeline, you'll get audio drift. 48kHz = 48,000 samples per second.
Bit rate is how many letters are in each word of data processed. 16-bit, 16 digit (1's and 0's) word. Bit depths can be mixed and matched. Sample rates can NOT.
We refere to samples as "rate" and bits as "depth".
24-bit is used when there will be a lot of processing/filters, but only if you're using high bit rate filters, such as in a DAW.
Almost all human beings can NOT hear the difference between 16-bit and higher bit rates. Some experienced engineers have tested to barely hear it, but you don't do it to sound better, you do higher bit rates to keep head room when doing heavy processing, which few editors do. Goes double for sample rates, anything higher than 44.1kHz and only the very few with super sensitive hearing can tell any quality or fidelity difference.
Stick with 48kHz and 16-bit and you will be perfectly safe, and have great quality audio (provided you use a good quality mic).
As Karsten said, sample rate is the most important. If you record a different sample rate than 48kHz, and put it in a 48kHz standard Timeline, you'll get audio drift. 48kHz = 48,000 samples per second.
Bit rate is how many letters are in each word of data processed. 16-bit, 16 digit (1's and 0's) word. Bit depths can be mixed and matched. Sample rates can NOT.
We refere to samples as "rate" and bits as "depth".
Last edit: 05 Jun 2015 12:58 by BenB.
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