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Can you tell the difference btw. a 150$ and a 15.ooo$ lense....?
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06 May 2015 04:44 #64107
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yeah, this could lead to an endless thread… I like it, when 'pixelpeeper' crash into 'hands on' guys ... and no, I couldn't ... haven't learned where to look at; thought, for example, with 16mm you should note at the very borders some ... distortion/CA/... anythin' ? … no, I'm blind when it comes to that level of detail.
And yes, I have watched to the end, the 15k lenses have a raison d'etre, but for sure, from a diff. perspective: a better 'glas' doesn't make YOU a better DoP …
yeah, this could lead to an endless thread… I like it, when 'pixelpeeper' crash into 'hands on' guys ... and no, I couldn't ... haven't learned where to look at; thought, for example, with 16mm you should note at the very borders some ... distortion/CA/... anythin' ? … no, I'm blind when it comes to that level of detail.
And yes, I have watched to the end, the 15k lenses have a raison d'etre, but for sure, from a diff. perspective: a better 'glas' doesn't make YOU a better DoP …
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06 May 2015 14:45 #64126
by BenB
Replied by BenB on topic Can you tell the difference btw. a 150$ and a 15.ooo$ lense....?
The best hardware/software in the hands of an idiot still produces garbage.
The worst hardware/software in the hands of a talented, seasoned pro still produces beautiful art.
All that crap is so subjective, I don't bother. The only absolute is that there are no absolutes.
The worst hardware/software in the hands of a talented, seasoned pro still produces beautiful art.
All that crap is so subjective, I don't bother. The only absolute is that there are no absolutes.
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06 May 2015 16:03 #64133
by anickt
Replied by anickt on topic Can you tell the difference btw. a 150$ and a 15.ooo$ lense....?
I agree with Ben
A friend showed me two local TV spots for a car dealer not too long ago.
One had been done by "We Think We're Hollywood Production Company" for $10,000. The other had been done by one guy for about $1500.
I would defy anyone to show me where the $10,000 spot was $7500 "better" than the $1500 spot.
A friend showed me two local TV spots for a car dealer not too long ago.
One had been done by "We Think We're Hollywood Production Company" for $10,000. The other had been done by one guy for about $1500.
I would defy anyone to show me where the $10,000 spot was $7500 "better" than the $1500 spot.
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07 May 2015 14:34 #64170
by ulisses
Replied by ulisses on topic Can you tell the difference btw. a 150$ and a 15.ooo$ lense....?
Not so easy to identify the lens by the image, but it was easy to tell that the voice is out of sync
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08 May 2015 07:51 #64192
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No doubt, that video is meant provocative, and its making (...and online distributing...) doesn't allow any serious debate upon 'quality' ...
I find it helpful anyhow!
If this is not your daily routine, it makes me aware, that discussing that golem "quality" starts with the quality of the debaters - and determination of criteria: is it just plain physics - what I snarky call 'pixelpeeping' = ignoring completely the psychology of perception. Or. is 'handling' part of quality (for professional usage: undoubted!)
... reminds me of that famous Zacuto Shoot Outs, and esp. the reaction of some (French?) film maker at the screenings, yelling "We should never show this to the public!" (too late Dear :kiss: ) ....
Those "we make you a movie/ad/MTVclip for less than 99.99$"-one-man-companies pop-up like mushrooms, listing all sorts of machinery and deliver ... crap.
Or, some enthusiasts get together and produce ... marvelousness.
Interesting times, we live in ....
I find it helpful anyhow!
If this is not your daily routine, it makes me aware, that discussing that golem "quality" starts with the quality of the debaters - and determination of criteria: is it just plain physics - what I snarky call 'pixelpeeping' = ignoring completely the psychology of perception. Or. is 'handling' part of quality (for professional usage: undoubted!)
... reminds me of that famous Zacuto Shoot Outs, and esp. the reaction of some (French?) film maker at the screenings, yelling "We should never show this to the public!" (too late Dear :kiss: ) ....
Those "we make you a movie/ad/MTVclip for less than 99.99$"-one-man-companies pop-up like mushrooms, listing all sorts of machinery and deliver ... crap.
Or, some enthusiasts get together and produce ... marvelousness.
Interesting times, we live in ....
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08 May 2015 10:36 - 08 May 2015 11:30 #64198
by BenB
Replied by BenB on topic Can you tell the difference btw. a 150$ and a 15.ooo$ lense....?
Well, it's
like this...
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08 May 2015 15:05 #64202
by wdevn
LLAP,
James
Taipei, Taiwan
Replied by wdevn on topic Can you tell the difference btw. a 150$ and a 15.ooo$ lense....?
Loved your article Ben!
LLAP,
James
Taipei, Taiwan
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08 May 2015 18:54 #64211
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Of course I can tell the difference - IF I get to see each lens and possibly handle it. Years of photographic experience have shown that the $15,000 lens will have badges and marks that indicate it's 'top of the line'. Not only that but the owner will have a spring in his step, be taller, better looking and more appealing to dogs and children.
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09 May 2015 07:30 #64230
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<pffff> almost killed my keyboard - GREAT!!
<note2myself: no coffee when reading here!>
And @Ben: nice blog, great fun to read … :lol:
Replied by Karsten Schlüter on topic Can you tell the difference btw. a 150$ and a 15.ooo$ lense....?
Squamish ed wrote: … Not only that but the owner will have a spring in his step, be taller, better looking and more appealing to dogs and children.
<pffff> almost killed my keyboard - GREAT!!
<note2myself: no coffee when reading here!>
And @Ben: nice blog, great fun to read … :lol:
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09 May 2015 22:18 - 09 May 2015 22:19 #64246
by BenB
Replied by BenB on topic Can you tell the difference btw. a 150$ and a 15.ooo$ lense....?
Thank's guys. I appreciate the kind words. Means a lot to me.
Oh, and the more expensive one "will cure your asthma, too. But I said..."
Oh, and the more expensive one "will cure your asthma, too. But I said..."
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