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How does a DSLR-gimbal work?
08 Sep 2013 08:27 - 08 Sep 2013 08:42 #30891
by Neguah
How does a DSLR-gimbal work? was created by Neguah
No eBay APP ID and/or Cert ID defined in Kunena configurationI know the therm Gimbal, but I don't know which one to buy. Is the cheapest one good enough? Can you use it as a glider, or do I need the expensive one?
I'm really considering selling my Glidecam and get a gimbal instead. But how does a gimbal work?
Why do I need this controller?
What's the difference between these?
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I'm really considering selling my Glidecam and get a gimbal instead. But how does a gimbal work?
Why do I need this controller?
What's the difference between these?
cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&i...61994#ht_1392wt_1091
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08 Sep 2013 10:07 #30894
by Karsten Schlüter
You have seen this video?
vimeo.com/63297368
A gimbal is a 3-axis suspension. The 'new' idea now is, not only to stabilize the cam with a weight or springs, but doing that 'actively' with tiny motors.
So, such gimbals offer TWO functions:
• you can 'fix' the cam to a given position - independently, how the operator holds the gimbal. There's some position-sensor, a simple computer and 3 motors.
• or, tag team match, you have one operator carrying the cam,and another one operating remotely the gimbal/cam. The electronics compensate unwanted movements, via remote you point or move to any wanted position.
So, in theory, such a gimbal can replace a dolly or a crane or a traditional steady-cam.
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You really consider to purchase such a device, without knowing its potential?? … :dry:
Replied by Karsten Schlüter on topic How does a DSLR-gimbal work?
Neguah wrote: … and get a gimbal instead. But how does a gimbal work?…
You have seen this video?
vimeo.com/63297368
A gimbal is a 3-axis suspension. The 'new' idea now is, not only to stabilize the cam with a weight or springs, but doing that 'actively' with tiny motors.
So, such gimbals offer TWO functions:
• you can 'fix' the cam to a given position - independently, how the operator holds the gimbal. There's some position-sensor, a simple computer and 3 motors.
• or, tag team match, you have one operator carrying the cam,and another one operating remotely the gimbal/cam. The electronics compensate unwanted movements, via remote you point or move to any wanted position.
So, in theory, such a gimbal can replace a dolly or a crane or a traditional steady-cam.
______________
You really consider to purchase such a device, without knowing its potential?? … :dry:
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08 Sep 2013 10:20 #30895
by Neguah
Replied by Neguah on topic How does a DSLR-gimbal work?
Seen it, yes. And as I wrote in my post I know the therm gimbal. I just want to know the difference between the 2 I linked to.
Seems like I don't need the controller, right? Because I just want it to function as a glidecam.
Well, yes. I consider. Haven't decided. That's why I'm asking all the questions and searching the net for answers.
Before I decide to buy I have to know more about it. Pros and cons.
Is it worth it?
Is it easier to operate than a glidecam?
And most of all. Do I really need it?
I love the the gliding footages. It's just amazing.
Seems like I don't need the controller, right? Because I just want it to function as a glidecam.
Well, yes. I consider. Haven't decided. That's why I'm asking all the questions and searching the net for answers.
Before I decide to buy I have to know more about it. Pros and cons.
Is it worth it?
Is it easier to operate than a glidecam?
And most of all. Do I really need it?
I love the the gliding footages. It's just amazing.
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08 Sep 2013 14:02 - 08 Sep 2013 14:04 #30901
by Karsten Schlüter
A glidecam, as far as my imagination goes, does MORE than a single, straight movement, imagine running behind a skate-boarder - lots of turns, pans, ups'n downs… a 'fix to one point'-device would be of no use!
The full potential of a muvi (brand name) is ONLY with a remote, or at last, as some other devices offer, sort of 'thumb joystick' for the carrier, to allow camera-movements.
Just imagine the typical slider action: camera moving horizontally a meter, plus a very soft pan - with a gimbal, you do need a controller, otherwise no pan.
Aside the fact it's an amazing piece of technology with a super-high score of
"Shut up and grab my money!"-factor
, who else than you could know?
I'm pretty sure, in the two-men-company production area (sports, nature, documentary) , a muvi will replace dollies'n tracks - just run'n point, no tracks, no mess. Same with jibs: a 7'-foot-Chewbaka-like assistant replaces any jib or tiny crane!
Look the Burton-Session:
vimeo.com/68897397
a ladder and two manned movement, a flight thru a window, Ballhaus-circle in a tiny office-cube, … easy! AND with a controller, for sure!
Replied by Karsten Schlüter on topic How does a DSLR-gimbal work?
Neguah wrote: … Seems like I don't need the controller, right? Because I just want it to function as a glidecam. … .
A glidecam, as far as my imagination goes, does MORE than a single, straight movement, imagine running behind a skate-boarder - lots of turns, pans, ups'n downs… a 'fix to one point'-device would be of no use!
The full potential of a muvi (brand name) is ONLY with a remote, or at last, as some other devices offer, sort of 'thumb joystick' for the carrier, to allow camera-movements.
Just imagine the typical slider action: camera moving horizontally a meter, plus a very soft pan - with a gimbal, you do need a controller, otherwise no pan.
Neguah wrote: … And most of all. Do I really need it? …
Aside the fact it's an amazing piece of technology with a super-high score of
"Shut up and grab my money!"-factor
I'm pretty sure, in the two-men-company production area (sports, nature, documentary) , a muvi will replace dollies'n tracks - just run'n point, no tracks, no mess. Same with jibs: a 7'-foot-Chewbaka-like assistant replaces any jib or tiny crane!
Look the Burton-Session:
vimeo.com/68897397
a ladder and two manned movement, a flight thru a window, Ballhaus-circle in a tiny office-cube, … easy! AND with a controller, for sure!
Last edit: 08 Sep 2013 14:04 by Karsten Schlüter.
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