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Upcoming NAB - Get Ready For A Game Changer!

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01 Apr 2013 04:47 #23543 by TrixTrax9000
Ok, I confess, that sounds like a very sensationalistic tabloid headline, but hear me out.

Event insider Vincent Laforet, essentially the father of DSLR video has only teased such a game changer twice in 5 years. The first time it was for the industry changing Reverie cinema style movie shot on the Canon 5D MKII. Vincent was the first to do it, & now they're shooting 40 million dollar features like this.

He says something big is coming in the next few days.

blog.vincentlaforet.com/2013/03/31/nab-2...o-this-blog-part-ii/

One could guess with his history at Canon, it might be coming from them... the speculation & tension of anticipation is palpable.

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04 Apr 2013 04:14 #23708 by TrixTrax9000
Another update from Vincent. He's saying the Game Changing news will be posted within the next 48 hours...

Are you excited yet?

blog.vincentlaforet.com/2013/04/03/expec...-within-24-48-hours/

:cheer:

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04 Apr 2013 12:19 #23749 by BenB
Geez, just tell us already! I hope this isn't another Segway build up. "It will change transportation forever!" And hardly anyone owns one now. LOL!

Seriously, should be very interesting. A fun way to kick off NAB Show 2013.

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04 Apr 2013 17:56 #23775 by Julian
Hey man, I see plenty of mall cops scooting around on those things.

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04 Apr 2013 18:04 - 05 Apr 2013 00:30 #23776 by TrixTrax9000
They're hugely popular for tourists to rent along the promenades of the French Riviera.

But I digress...

Lot's of speculation in the comments over on Vincent's page (Gyro Stabilization, Focus, etc.).
Unfortunately, Laforet already nixed my hopeful by saying it's not a camera, but it IS a "piece of camera equipment."

:(

When, oh when will we get the all in one perfect camera?

Still, whatever it is, should be exciting & the countdown is on...
Last edit: 05 Apr 2013 00:30 by TrixTrax9000 .

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04 Apr 2013 18:24 - 04 Apr 2013 18:25 #23779 by BenB
All In One Perfect, the unobtainable subjective goal.

My guess is that it is exactly a specific new accoutrement for videographers that will help them potentially evolve the quality of their work in an easier and faster manner, and carry a particularly exact type of new product wow factor. That is what I think it will be, specifically.
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05 Apr 2013 07:07 - 05 Apr 2013 07:18 #23813 by Julian
It's a stabilizer

So when you read the article and watch the video this seems pretty impressive. Then you see that the price point is just as much or more than a steadicam and it's not impressive anymore. The movement in their demo video is slightly jerky and doesn't have that same floating feeling as a steadicam.

I don't see this as a game changer. If it was less than $3,000 then maybe, but when it's in the same price range as the steadicam then I don't see the point.

Edit: they are adding more footage shot with this thing, but they are charging $3 to view it?

"Paying it forward: ***** GIVE US 1 HOUR TO GET THIS VIDEO UP******

I also wanted to try something a bit different here. At first I thought we’d put additional content up for a small charge and throw a party for the crew or pay them a bonus – but I didn’t like the precedent the former option set. Therefore we’re also throwing up a downloadable "Pay Per View" version with the help of Vimeo - All proceeds from the sale of the video will go to a charity on behalf of the cast and crew. The Charity is called the "Lollipo Theater Network" ( lollipoptheater.org ) and brings the magic of movies currently in theathers, to children that are confined to hospitals nationwide due to chronic or life-threatening illnesses.

The downloadable video includes another never before seen shoot with the MōVI outdoors shot on the Panasonic GH3, along with that will be 3 full ungraded extended takes from MōVI shot with the Canon EOS 1DC in Canon C-Log, as well as a director and inventor’s commentary for the short. The Vimeo On Demand footage is available for download for $3. It goes to a good cause so if you’re interested click on the following Lollipop Theater Piece Link here."
Last edit: 05 Apr 2013 07:18 by Julian. Reason: Added more info.

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05 Apr 2013 07:41 #23817 by finalbug.net
Not much of a camera guy myself. But that thread is gold if only because of the comments.

Like all those devices that I have never heard of that camera geeks find sexy.

It is like a parallel universe. An iCam. :silly: Very curious B)

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05 Apr 2013 08:00 - 05 Apr 2013 08:15 #23818 by TrixTrax9000
Ironically, Vincent's 45K+ Twitter followers are crashing his site right now. He's pleading for people to go to the Vimeo page instead. It's another little movie, much like Reverie, but shot on the Canon 1DC with this new gyro system called MōVI.

vimeo.com/62917185

This video shows the actual unit, which I must say I prefer to SteadiCam because it's much lighter, smaller & not connected to you by a harness. Sure looks super stable too. But 3 grand? Some kid's going to post a DIY vid on youtube in a week, how to make this thing for 200 bucks.

vimeo.com/63297368#at=24

Here's the inventor talking about his device with Vincent, accompanied by behind the scenes footage. While watching the original film I was particularly impressed by the thru the cab window sequence, here they show how that was achieved. While watching I was thinking a skateboard, & wasn't far off. The final veering off appears to go up onto a curb & across a sidewalk. Not until you see this behind the scenes footage do you see the secret of that effect, & what the perfect framing concealed.

vimeo.com/63357898

Ehh... I was kinda hoping for something else, & at a groundbreaking price to really crack things wide open for young filmmakers.

It didn't change my game... how about you?

:)
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05 Apr 2013 08:04 #23819 by Julian
If I was gonna spend $15k, I'd buy a real steadicam. The aerial stuff is cool and all, but there are much cheaper options out there.

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05 Apr 2013 08:21 #23821 by finalbug.net
Having watched the video. Loved the Music, the camera and the kick ass editing.

I can only say… Not so sure about the game changing thing!

A helicopter for 3,000€ now that would be a game changer :P

Thoroughly engaging exercise in Mise en scène. Bravo.

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05 Apr 2013 08:49 #23823 by Scrubelicious

TrixTrax9000 wrote: Ok, I confess, that sounds like a very sensationalistic tabloid headline, but hear me out.

Event insider Vincent Laforet, essentially the father of DSLR video has only teased such a game changer twice in 5 years. The first time it was for the industry changing Reverie cinema style movie shot on the Canon 5D MKII. Vincent was the first to do it, & now they're shooting 40 million dollar features like this.

He says something big is coming in the next few days.

blog.vincentlaforet.com/2013/03/31/nab-2...o-this-blog-part-ii/

One could guess with his history at Canon, it might be coming from them... the speculation & tension of anticipation is palpable.


I would say RED and Black Magics Cinema Camera was more of a game changer. :evil:

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05 Apr 2013 10:35 #23824 by NocoDave
I'm not sure exactly what is gong on here, is this a 2 person operated rig?

In this video:

vimeo.com/63357898

Following 2:20 he said "You separate the jobs of moving the camera and pointing the camera" and talks of a remote. If this framing can be controlled, not just focus/exposure etc. then I think it looks fantastic.

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05 Apr 2013 11:24 #23825 by Scrubelicious
This could be really cool guerrilla style rig. But not much info out there on it.
I would like to know, can I pop a RED Cam on it and how much is the real price or is usable right out of the box?

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05 Apr 2013 11:35 #23826 by NocoDave
I just found my answer by actually reading the description below the video:

"The completely silent device weighs under 3.5 pounds bare and can be operated solo, or with the help of a second "gimbal" operator with a joystick to pull off some incredible moves."

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05 Apr 2013 14:50 #23837 by Karsten Schlüter
it's a 'Drone Camera' without the quatrocopter.

'Game changing' will be the 40k$ solution:
a remote controlled gimbal at a steady-cam!
You then have a 'runner', plus a camera operator for framing, focus etc ....

Then it's a hell-of-a-replacement of dollies, jibs etc :woohoo:

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05 Apr 2013 20:40 #23851 by TrixTrax9000
Love the idea of being able to replace dollies which have always been a massive hassle (requiring their own truck), but this can only replace the smallest of jibs, unless you have your shooter running up & down stepladders. I wouldn't want to be that guy...

:cheer:

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06 Apr 2013 21:29 #23931 by FCPGuy


Check this out from 2012.

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06 Apr 2013 23:17 #23936 by NocoDave
Go on, give us an NABshow walk through with a remote operator and a behind the scenes cam. We all know your reading (or someone will point you to us) and we all know you want to.

You'll make us feel special.

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07 Apr 2013 01:43 #23942 by TrixTrax9000
Hmm.. interesting vid, basically he had the same servo gyro SteadiCam replacement in 2012, I'm assuming it didn't change any games then either.

Unless the game was - Best Mad Scientist Looking Contraption With Most Amount Of Loose Wires Hanging Off It.

What? I thought he was a shoe-in to win that award... apparently he lost to a guy with the exact same device, but it also had sparks coming off it.

Aww... so close.

:cheer:

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