Slow Motion

Everything was shot with hacked GH2 in 720p@60 mode, then reconformed @24 fps with Cinema Tools, and quickly edited in FCPX.

Nice shots, enjoyed it.

You didn't have to use Cinema Tools, FCP X has that function built in. Create a 24fps Timeline, Drop your clips in, use the Retiming's "Conform" function. It actually "is" Cinema Tools inside FCP X. Saves you some time.

Read the "Conform a clip’s speed to match the project’s speed" section here in the user manual.
help.apple.com/finalcutpro/mac/10.0.3/#ver40b00150

Thanks Ben.

Actually, I first tried the conform speed button inside FCP X, but I wasn't convinced by this workflow for two reasons: First of all, it needs to be rendered in FCPX ( it's fast though, but not as fast as Cinema Tools's, which will just modify metadata). The other reason is that I wanted every single shots at 23.98fps, so batch reconforming before ingesting inside FCP was quicker: I didn't have to do the conform speed operation each time I dragged a clip into the timeline.

I think this option is useful when someone has to reconform only a few chosen clips.

For this kind of project, I think FCPX is missing an option: the ability the reconform at any given speed, directly from the event browser (Maybe it's already there, but I couldn't find it).

For doing a Batch for a lot of clips I'd actually make a Compressor droplet, that'd be even faster than Cinema Tools, since CT you have to deal with databases, XMLs, etc, etc.

So, what exactly was your workflow going from Cinema Tools to FCP X?

A Conform function in the Browser would be really helpful, yes. I've filled out the feedback form on this awhile ago, and encourage others to do the same who need batch conforms.

Since I keep backround rendering turned off, since I rarely need things rendered until the end, that's not an issue for me, but if you're on an iMac for laptop, yeah, rendering could take some time away from editing.

Another workflow would be to drop all the clips into a rough cut, in order, conform, then trim the edits. But then there's render time if you're hardware can't do smooth playback without.

I bring up this workflow due to an issue I've found, as Cinema Tools is have trouble launching since I upgraded to Lion OS. In which case it's good to have even the remedial function in FCP X.

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MorphoV wrote: Everything was shot with hacked GH2 in 720p@60 mode, then reconformed @24 fps with Cinema Tools, and quickly edited in FCPX.

vimeo.com/35856935

Pretty cool, I remember doing Skate videos back in the day with Premiere and a Pentium with 133Hz.
Worlds of difference... try to bring down speed lower on the Olli shots and kick in the Opticalflow.

My workflow was pretty straight forward: I transcoded my .MTS files with 5dtoRGB.
(I posted a script to batch convert here: www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/5...-vs-disadvantages/p2 )

Then, I just batch reconformed with cinema tools (It just ask for a folder path, and will modify the metadata of all the clips in less than a second)... and I imported the files in FCPX.

I was ready to edit directly: Timeline and clips were both 720p 23.98fps.

By the way, I agree: I will send a feedback to apple very soon.

Great mood, the speed, song, lighting, worked well. Why'd they destroy the skate park?

Thank you.
They've destroyed it to extend the mall next to it

Sorry but i find the slowmo function in fcpx very bad.... in the slow panning make with GH2 in 1080@50i with the optical flow o frame blending the result is jerky...

i make the timeline in 1080@25i, import the file and retime the clip at about 50% (but at 75% is the same) but can i do anything to improve the result?

Thanks

If you're going to slomo stuff, shoot progressive footage, always. Interlace causes so many problems. It should be outlawed.

Drop your 50i clip into a 25i timeline, use the "Conform Speed" function in the Retiming shortcut menu. That will give you the actual frames retimed for the clearest slowmo you'll get. Then slow down from there as needed.

Check this out.
www.fcp.co/forum/13-made-with-final-cut-...-mo-w-gopro-and-fcpx

I can't agree that optical flow is bad. Like Ben started it all depends on your foottage.
There are surtent ways and panning that has be done when shooting for slowmo. Except if you have high speed frame rate camera.

Yep, slomo is only as clear as the original frames were shot.

But i shoot in 1080i 50 but when import file in fcpx the clips are in 1080i 25 (no prony no optimized transcoding)... the timeline is 1080i 25 so the conform speed do nothing... where is the mistake??

I'd right click that clip, Reveal In Finder, open that QT file into QT Player, Cmd-i to see what it really is. Just to be sure.

i see now....

the original mts file output from gh-2 is 50i but when the file is imported in fcpx become 25... why?? can i change this parameter??

thanks a lot for the support!

i read now that fcpx can't import 50i or 50p files... ufff and now what can i do?

i always use 50i for better movements but if i convert the clip in 25p is useless...

If you absolutely want to shoot slomo in 1920x1080 with a GH2, you have to go interlaced. Then, you can get decent result with JES deinterlacer, set on deinterlace mode, with "Both fields" and "double movie duration" checked.

Anyway I'd rather shoot on 720p mode @50 or 60, with a good GH2 patch ( Now, I use Flow Motion most of the time)

Ooh, very nice! I've been meaning to try some of this out. I've just done a few tests in FCPX. But I believe I shot a whole music video in 720/60fps. (may have had the shutter speed too slow, at 30, though)

Nice to see that it will turn out like I imagined

*edit*

I was trying to hack my GH2 for a while sho I could shoot a zillion frames per second, but I couldnt figure it out.

FCPX does 50p just fine!