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A film from a bike race in Norway
31 Aug 2013 15:45 #30614
by Neguah
A film from a bike race in Norway was created by Neguah
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08 Sep 2013 08:59 #30892
by klausre
Replied by klausre on topic A film from a bike race in Norway
Hi, I think the music is to monotonic... so it´s makes the movie uninteresting and boring. You need music whit punsh to give it the wow-factor:)Neguah wrote: vimeo.com/73419160
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08 Sep 2013 09:14 #30893
by Neguah
Replied by Neguah on topic A film from a bike race in Norway
Thanks for your feedback!
Still in my learning phase, both cinematic and music. Haven't even touched an instrument before starting making music 6 months ago.
I can agree that the music is monotonic, but hey, this is the kind of music a make. It might get better, and it'll still might be like this
Still in my learning phase, both cinematic and music. Haven't even touched an instrument before starting making music 6 months ago.
I can agree that the music is monotonic, but hey, this is the kind of music a make. It might get better, and it'll still might be like this
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09 Sep 2013 10:53 #30923
by simonpwood
Replied by simonpwood on topic A film from a bike race in Norway
I'm just coming back to film work again after a big hiatus and I have not been to this site in a while, so I thought I should have a look at some recent videos.
So I'm going to offer a quick and brutal critique. :evil:
I think your camera work is really good; you have a good eye and you have got some interesting shots in there using objects in the foreground to frame your subjects.
The handheld stuff looks fine when its meant to be handheld and a bit shaky - no problem. The only thing is that there are a number of shots there that look locked off on a tripod, but when you change focus you can see some shake and vibration being introduced into the shot. Maybe you were bracing the camera against an object to try and hold it steady, or just using a really flimsy tripod? I reckon if the shot is locked it should be totally locked; the small vibrations detract from the shot. I guess you were rushing from location to location though to set up in front of the cyclists.
From an editing point of view I reckon you could tighten this a good deal; 2 or 3 minutes would probably get the message across better. Obviously for people who were involved in the race and featured in the video its nice to have a longer cut which makes a nice memento. But for everyone else I reckon a shorter cut could be more effective. You could try making a montage of very quick and frenetic paced cuts of the cyclists to try and introduce the idea of speed (but then again I just love crash cuts to drive short films along - just my personal preference).
I'm not sure I liked your grade; somehow a lot of these fit & healthy athletes look decidedly unhealthy (very pale skin with high contrast, or very purple and blotchy skin tones). The guy at 1.28 and 2.02 looks like he should be recuperating in a hospital! Maybe the grade was meant to be an aggressive look; but the natural skin tones are suffering because of it.
So I'm going to offer a quick and brutal critique. :evil:
I think your camera work is really good; you have a good eye and you have got some interesting shots in there using objects in the foreground to frame your subjects.
The handheld stuff looks fine when its meant to be handheld and a bit shaky - no problem. The only thing is that there are a number of shots there that look locked off on a tripod, but when you change focus you can see some shake and vibration being introduced into the shot. Maybe you were bracing the camera against an object to try and hold it steady, or just using a really flimsy tripod? I reckon if the shot is locked it should be totally locked; the small vibrations detract from the shot. I guess you were rushing from location to location though to set up in front of the cyclists.
From an editing point of view I reckon you could tighten this a good deal; 2 or 3 minutes would probably get the message across better. Obviously for people who were involved in the race and featured in the video its nice to have a longer cut which makes a nice memento. But for everyone else I reckon a shorter cut could be more effective. You could try making a montage of very quick and frenetic paced cuts of the cyclists to try and introduce the idea of speed (but then again I just love crash cuts to drive short films along - just my personal preference).
I'm not sure I liked your grade; somehow a lot of these fit & healthy athletes look decidedly unhealthy (very pale skin with high contrast, or very purple and blotchy skin tones). The guy at 1.28 and 2.02 looks like he should be recuperating in a hospital! Maybe the grade was meant to be an aggressive look; but the natural skin tones are suffering because of it.
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09 Sep 2013 15:29 #30941
by Neguah
Replied by Neguah on topic A film from a bike race in Norway
Ouch, it hurts!!
But I want to get better, so all critique is good, as long as they are constructive. And I would say yours are.
The tripod I was using is no good. It's barely useful when touching the camera, especially when focusing. So that's why it's shaky when locked off on a tripod.
I was also rushing from location to location, giving me little time to set up the tripod. I had to improvise a lot!!
Mostly I did this for the guys in it and for the cyclist around. I perhaps need some... I need some training to get my videos interesting for everyone, not just for the person in it.
I really need some training in color grading. It absolutely not my strong suit. This was actually my first color grading. As for my other video, I mostly fixed the contrasts, saturation and a bit color grading for WB.
The guy... well, he looks like that. One of the best cyclist up north. But I agree. When looking at it, I could have given them some warmer skin tone. But when I did, everything around got a warmer look. I wanted to look to be a bit cold with contrast and light colors.
So... have to get better.
But many thanks for you feedback!!
I have one talent, ant that's my eye. And I'm glad you noticed it!
But I want to get better, so all critique is good, as long as they are constructive. And I would say yours are.
The tripod I was using is no good. It's barely useful when touching the camera, especially when focusing. So that's why it's shaky when locked off on a tripod.
I was also rushing from location to location, giving me little time to set up the tripod. I had to improvise a lot!!
Mostly I did this for the guys in it and for the cyclist around. I perhaps need some... I need some training to get my videos interesting for everyone, not just for the person in it.
I really need some training in color grading. It absolutely not my strong suit. This was actually my first color grading. As for my other video, I mostly fixed the contrasts, saturation and a bit color grading for WB.
The guy... well, he looks like that. One of the best cyclist up north. But I agree. When looking at it, I could have given them some warmer skin tone. But when I did, everything around got a warmer look. I wanted to look to be a bit cold with contrast and light colors.
So... have to get better.
But many thanks for you feedback!!
I have one talent, ant that's my eye. And I'm glad you noticed it!
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